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The NRA's Meaningful Contribution to Prevent Gun Violence

The NRA's meaningful contribution to preventing further gun violence ...

 

The NRA's meaningful contribution to preventing further gun violence: fear mongering and finger pointing, demonizing the media, the mentally ill, law enforcement agencies and politicians – with a call for more armed citizens and guards deployed in every school in America.

   In 1962 when I was a six-year-old first grader in Ohio, the last thing my parents ever worried about was a crazed gunman entering our small town school and killing me or my classmates. Back then, in our little town at least, most home owners didn't feel the need to even lock their doors at night. Let alone the necessity of having a gun for home protection. Of course, back then also the proliferation of guns and high powered assault weapons was unheard of in our country and military grade weapons were only in the hands of the military personnel and not in the hands of civilians. Oh, how times have changed from those simpler and much more idyllic times. Today, due in large part to the NRA and their very effective advocacy for the proliferation of all guns in our society, we are faced with a very different paradigm indeed.

   Yesterday's national press conference by the NRA with their Executive Vice-President Wayne LaPierre acting as spokesman was meant to provide us with insight into what meaningful contribution his organization will provide to prevent further gun violence. First, however, Mr. LaPierre used fear-mongering to justify his organization's insatiable appetite for more guns, then he pointed his bony finger of blame at the “corrupted media” for promoting violence through movies, violent video games and the media's supposed demonetization of gun owners, he then blamed an entire population of the mentally ill and he called for a national registry of all those diagnosed with mental illnesses, he blamed lax-law enforcement agencies and the “political class for pursuing new gun control measures while failing to enforce existing gun laws” and finally he “called for a 'National School Shield' program, to arm and train guards in schools as the best way to protect children from gun violence.” Yet, surprisingly, he as a main spokesman for the NRA, failed once to blame or take any responsibility what so ever for his own organizations actions regarding the ongoing epidemic of gun violence in today's America.

   While I agree we certainly need to seriously address our culture of violence that is oft depicted in our movies and video games, I strongly disagree that every one diagnosed with mental illness should be listed in a national database. What is he talking about here? Should every person who suffers from depression and asks their doctor for medicinal relief be listed in this database? His very bad idea would not only violate doctor patient confidentiality, but it would also serve to further exacerbate the stigma of mental illness and cause more people suffering from these illnesses to not seek appropriate treatment. And by the way, Mr. LaPierre, the National Instant Background Check System (NICS) already has a registry of 1.1 million individuals that have been deemed by a judge to be “mentally defective” or have been involuntarily committed or ordered by courts to seek mental health treatment. These individuals are already prevented from purchasing guns legally. Of course, we do need to enforce all existing laws on the books. And legislation to ban assault weapons and close gun show loopholes and private gun sales transactions that are exempt from background checks would be wise ideas too. Essentially though, Mr. LaPierre and his organization's main answer or idea to solve the problem of gun violence in the public square is more guns in the hands of trained armed guards and citizens. If this is truly their best solution to the problem, then we are in much more trouble than previously thought.

   In my opinion, Mr. LaPierre and his organization's press conference was, not only self-serving, but also did not provide a true meaningful contribution to the debate on how we best solve the problem of gun violence. In the Preamble it is written “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” How, Mr. LaPierre does your meaningful contribution promote the general Welfare and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity? How are we really free when realistically we can not physically enter a public space not assured that we won't be shot or become collateral damage to a gun battle between good people and bad people with guns. Do we all really want to live in a country that has to have trained armed guards with assault weapons as mall workers, movie theater staff, grocery store employees and school teachers to be safe?

   And finally, where is the justice and domestic tranquility for the parents of the fallen children and the others who have tragically lost loved ones to the senselessness of the violence caused by the guns you so fervently and illogically protect? Let's, all tell Mr. LaPierre and his organization that we decline to accept their meaningful contribution, because, surly there are better more sensible ways to prevent the ongoing and ever increasing problem of gun violence in our country.

David Conkle December 30, 2012 at 06:33 pm
Kathryn, the NRA is certainly is part of the problem instead of rhw solution. They no longer represent the opinions of the majority of their members anymore as they are more of a lobbying arm of the gun manufacturers. I have never advocated for banning guns and taking them away from legal gun owners. However, more responsibility needs to be taken by gun owners to properly secure their weapons, lest they fall into the hands of mentally unbalanced individuals and criminals.
Joe December 30, 2012 at 06:39 pm
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Joe December 30, 2012 at 06:39 pm
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Joe December 30, 2012 at 06:40 pm
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Joe December 30, 2012 at 06:40 pm
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Joe December 30, 2012 at 06:40 pm
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Joe December 30, 2012 at 06:41 pm
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Joe December 30, 2012 at 06:41 pm
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David Conkle December 30, 2012 at 07:07 pm
Doug, as I've said before we need to look at solving the problem of gun violence using a holistic approach. Where was Adam Lanza's father and what did he do to prevent the violence his son perpetrated upon others so horrifically? Yes, we need to solve the social ills caused by the culture of poverty ands it's effects on social mobility. In regards to mentally illness, this disease is protected under privacy laws just like any other disease. Would you like your health records to be public knowlege, Doug? As one who has worked with those diagnosed with severe and persistent mental illness, I can attest to the fact that the vast majority of those suffering from this disease are not prone to violence towards others. The mentally ill are far more prone to turn inwards and harm themselves than others, and they often carry out their suicidal plans with a gun. As I've also written before, yes, we need to examine our culture of violence and factors that contribute to it. Oh, and by the way, Great Britain had a total of 35 gun murders last year with the majority of these deaths happening in Wales. Australia's numbers are now steadily decreasing and are way far below the number of deaths caused by gun violence in America. I have never advocated banning or infringing on the rights of our citizens to legally own guns. Do we really need assualt weapons though? Should all citizens also be able to own grenades, mortars, predator drones etc.? Where does it all end? We're better than this, no?
dan December 30, 2012 at 07:41 pm
There are many things to consider but this is nothing but a bash to the NRA. This is agenda pushing basically. There was a press conference where the NRA stated they wanted to work to find a template. They did not demonize but pointed out obvious short comings of this generation. It is not video games that cause it, be it creates dis-connectivity. Split home. Obama is president so you can't go there...people can come from split homes and be president.
There are more guns in the US than citizens. Gun violence is down over the last 6 years and gun sales UP in Cali-forn-eye-A. Biggest opposition to gun violence is a hypocrite. Violent crime is down also. However, mass shootings are on the rise. 44 dead in one year? Now at elementary schools. We need to protect the kids. After that press conference, there was another. This one did not make the media. http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/21/nra-announces-national-school-shield/ It explains the NSS or National School Shield which is a template for schools and DOES NOT have to include guns. The NRA is trying to provide a plan but the current administration did nothing to protect the children, just appoint VP Biden to constrict laws. Also, the 2nd Amendment was created to allow us to bear arms to defend us against our government. They are now trying to take that away. Remove the NRA and do you think that is ok?
Babs Ann December 30, 2012 at 11:21 pm
Maybe you should take some armored vehicles up and down the streets of the inner cities and go door to door to confiscate the street guns. We are all aware those street guns that kill every day are not registered and it's highly unlikely they are NRA members. With a few killings by guns the past few days in Philly and 500 gun related deaths this past year in Chicago who have strict gun laws, getting rid of THOSE guns will reduce street crime. I would like to know the data on how many mass killings were actually committed by registered gun owners.
Babs Ann December 30, 2012 at 11:25 pm
When the Criminal Justice system keeps criminals behind bars instead of giving them probation time, then we can engage in a real discussion on gun violence. Most gun violence is drug related but we all know quite well how the left want to decriminalize drug crimes. Lock up the dealers and the users and there will be less shooting deaths in our cities streets. The occasional whack job who massacres people is very rare.
Babs Ann December 30, 2012 at 11:27 pm
Just think of what the outcome may have been had the Jews been armed.
Babs Ann December 30, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Roger Sherman, during House consideration of a militia bill (1790):
[C]onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular states, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend, by force of arms, their rights, when invaded. 14 Debates in the House of Representatives, ed. Linda Grand De Pauw. (Balt., Johns Hopkins Univ. Press, 1972), 92-3.
Marc J. Yacht MD, MPH December 31, 2012 at 09:40 pm
Great post and fascinating responses. Many have left the NRA due to their extreme positions on gun rights. The tragedy at Newtown and those that occurred before it, relate to a combination of mentally deranged people and too many guns that are simply too available to the general pubic. To suggest more guns as a solution would be akin to putting out a fire by dousing it with gasoline. Canada, and the European countries came to terms with reasonable gun control decades ago. And it should be stated that many more are killed each year in unintentional gun accidents by people who legitimately have guns. As I mentioned in my most recent blog I would like gun control advocates and gun rights advocates to find a common ground and that would be to pressure congress for reestablishing a strong Mental health system. I would suggest gun that control bills will be forthcoming and successful. I am a gun owner but find the NRA a disgracefull organization totally insensitive to the carnage cused by gun accidents, crimes, and horrific tragedies. caused by the mentally unbalanced. I am afraid we have not seen the end of these tragedies.
Bulldog January 2, 2013 at 01:47 pm
I am also an NRA member but find the NRA totally lacking in their loudly touted support of the 2nd amendment. The NRA should always have been fighting to protect all gun ownership rights but historically they have been busy barganing them away (google it). GUNOWNERS OF AMERICA as is JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP! BUT the NRA does provide the best firearms safety and training with it's civilian firearms safety training programs, National competitions, law enforcement and personal protection training.
The anti-gun politicians are using these shootings to promote their disarm American adgenda when they know full well there is NO evidence to support that any anti-gun law made anyone safer. If "no one" actually needs 30 round magazines why not put taking them away from "everyone" on the table..Why does law enforcement need high capasity magazines to protect themselves while civilians don't, isn't it civilians that are most likely to be shot at? What exactly is an "assault" weapon; could it be any firearm, as defined by anti-gun politicians like Feinstein, Pulosi, Reed, etc, as a firearm equal in firepower to firearms being used by law enforcement, and WHY.....The American people are simply being told here that they can not be trusted with firearms except for very limited types and uses as defined by them, that is not acceptable to me and I will hope not to America.
Michael D. January 2, 2013 at 02:32 pm
Barb,
Being armed and the type of arms you are allowed to bear are too different conversations. We all have the right to bear arms, but according to Supreme Court rules since the 1800's the government has the right to limit the arms we are allowed to bear.
David Conkle January 2, 2013 at 03:44 pm
Really Dan? Do we all really want to live in a society where we need armed guards to protect our children at schools? How does this "bad" idea make us a more free society? When the right to bear arms is a deterrent to our basic freedoms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, then guns are more of a problem then a solution. After 236-years of the Republic and considering the might of our military and police, I seriously doubt that all the guns in America really do truly protect us from our government. I mean have you really thought thru the rammifications of an armed insurrection that could realistically lead to another Civil War? I don't believe banning assault weapons and closing the private gun sales loopholes will completely solve all the problems associated with gun violence, however, these are a crucial changes that would certainly lessen or prevent more senseless deaths by guns in the hands of unbalanced individuals.
David Conkle January 2, 2013 at 04:03 pm
Bulldog, true the NRA does promote gun safety and provide training that is very useful for legal gun owners. I've never advocated for a total ban on guns or denying a citizen's right to bear arms. As far as your reasoning on civilians owning military style weapons that were designed to kill so efficently and effectively though, should we also like the police, be able to have drones, armored personel carriers, and fully automatic weapons also? Hell, the military possesses nukes, should nuclear weapons then be considered arms we all can bear too? As difficult as it may be, can we all use some common sense in helping solve or prevent the ongoing problem of gun violence in our country?
David Conkle January 2, 2013 at 04:29 pm
Thank you for your thoughtful response, Marc. As a past Mental Health Professional, I feel we should all be concerned with Florida being ranked 48th in the country for MH resource funding. As you know, no matter the efficacy of a system, without proper funding of resouces only a limited amount of clients can ever be treated or served. Of greater concern to me at least, are the now 1 million concealed weapons permits issued by Florida.The facts are that even those diagnosed with mental health symptoms can leagally own guns and even hold a concealed weapons permit. Furthermore, what percentage of concealed weapons permit holders have mental health issues that have never been appropriately diagnosed, let alone, treated? Add Florida's "Stand Your Ground" laws to the mix and you truly have a recipe for disaster. I do try to believe we are better than this, however, the empirical evidence appears to prove otherwise.
michael mirra January 2, 2013 at 04:41 pm
Criminals will always have guns. It is the nature of society. You can't stop criminals from having guns, but many of the florida shootings aren't like inner cities. Look at the guy who recently shot his neighbor on a basketball court over a kid skateboarding, or the wanna be cop 1/2 assed security guard killing a kid because he was wearing a hoodie & objected to being harrased & profiled. These were registerd gun owners, as are the road rage shootings that go on constantly in Florida. The Sandy Hook killings were also legal gun ownership where the kid's mother bought the guns. Most likely the Arora killer also obtained the guns legally at someplace like wal-mart. Assault weapons are the problem because it is't reasonable to think they can be monitered & controlled effectively.
If people want to have normal, sane weapons, I'm ok with that, though I don't like it. It is their legal right to hunt & kill innocent creatures of God that are only trying to survive & call it SPORT. It is when people go off & kill people for no reason that it is something that must be stopped.
michael mirra January 2, 2013 at 04:47 pm
Criminals having guns usually use them on each other. That's their business. Let them shoot each other. Assault weapons are used for mass killings. If assault weapons are illegal, confiscated, & possesion carries a jail term, or fine, less people would stockpile them. Also, publish the names & addresses of assault weapons owners on the internet, newspapers & TV. Many employers would not hire, or terminate them for fear of workplace violence that we also see too often.
michael mirra January 2, 2013 at 04:54 pm
If the jews were armed, they would have been mowed down in the streets faster than the trains carrying them to the ovens. They could not have stood up to the nazi war machine anymore than American Malitia crazys can stand up to the military. The jews being armed, would have had more dieing in WACO type stand offs & less in the ovens, but the results would have been the same. They just wouldn't have sufferd as long.
michael mirra January 2, 2013 at 05:02 pm
The reason the aclu will fight legislation to institutionalize people more easily is because if abused, the govenment can more easily lock up anyone they choose just by saying that the person needs locking up. It is a fine line between use to keep crazys off the street & locking up anyone they feel like by saying the person needs locking up IN THEIR JUDGEMENT. The aclu is just making sure that the govenment doesn't overstep it's bounds.
michael mirra January 2, 2013 at 05:04 pm
These posting boards are just the same old, same old repeated over & over.
"... and the beat goes on, & the beat goes on" Sonny & Cher
David Conkle January 3, 2013 at 03:32 pm
Hey Joe, no one is asking you to turn in your guns and what the Brits were protesting here was a ban on fox hunting because of the inhumane way this type of hunting was conducted. Also, when you watch a report that only presents one side of the aurgument, you are watching propaganda. Stop drinking the kool-aide Joe and consider both sides equally and objectively before passing on this type of Faux News style propaganda. You have a brain, use it is all I'm saying to you.
David Conkle January 3, 2013 at 03:37 pm
Just like gun violence Michael, repeated over and over, and the carnage continues, and the death goes on and on...
TransPlant January 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm
So go away
Michael D. January 17, 2013 at 10:56 pm
Just think the irony that the NRA blamed media and video game specifically for making a violent culture. Then releases an IOS shooting game for ages 4+. Irony.
David Conkle January 19, 2013 at 08:58 pm
TransPlant, could you expound upon your comment. Who do you want to go away? I would certainly hope you're not saying that to me as one who diligently served his country and is a disabled veteran as a result of that service.

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