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Concerns About Veterans Boat Show Prompt Outrage, Action

While some groups have expressed disappointment and anger over the poorly attended Veterans Day event in Safety Harbor, others have stood by organizer Glen Caristinos.

The first annual Veterans Day Boat Show With a Twist of Parrot was supposed to be a giant celebration of American’s veterans for the city of Safety Harbor. 

But for some, the inaugural event was a big disappointment.

Local veterans' organizations, city officials and others have expressed concerns over the lack of attendance and subsequent lack of proceeds from the event, which spanned three days over Veterans Day weekend in November.

The concerns prompted the City Commission to enact stricter guidelines when it comes to approving similar charitable endeavors during their Nov. 19 meeting

But event organizer Glen Caristinos says there are two sides to every story.

“Nobody knows all that I did to put the thing together,” Caristinos told Patch. “No one realizes what it cost to put on that event.

“I brought in the flyover. I brought in the ski team. I brought in the veterans groups. I did all that,” he said. “I put my heart and soul into this.”

Attendance Woes Lead to Unhappiness

When the application for the Veterans Boat Show was filed with the city, no one had any idea what the event would be like. First-time events are often plagued by low attendance, especially when they fall on a busy autumn weekend in Florida. 

And while a number of competing events in the Tampa Bay area that weekend — Rib Fest in St. Pete, a wine festival in Dunedin — could have played a factor, no one is denying that attendance was poor.

“It’s a very well-run event. It’s one of the best run events I’ve ever been a part of,” local artist Stacy Roth, who had a booth at the show, said at the time. “It’s too bad more people didn’t turn out.” 

Caristinos, for his part, admitted the attendance was bad, but he’s not sure why.

“We understand the attendance was very poor, there’s no denying it,” Caristinos said. “Why was the turnout so bad? I don’t know. I took out newspaper ads, TV ads.”

“I know the Home Show was down. I heard Rib Fest was down. Is it a sign of the times? I don’t know. I don’t speculate on attendance.” 

The low turnout led to very little money being generated for the 200-plus vendors, groups and businesses that were a part of the show.

Connie Church, owner of the De Lei’d Parrots band that performed at the show, said it took more than three weeks to get her money from Caristinos, and she is determined to prevent him from doing something similar again.

“The money is not the issue anymore," she wrote in an email. "I want to stand with the veterans and make ... sure that this guy does not do this to anyone else." 

Caristinos claims a “clerical error” caused the delay in the payment to Church. He says everyone who was promised a payment has been paid.

The real problem, he believes, is that many people didn’t read their contracts, which promised free space and tents but not any guaranteed payouts.

“All of our paperwork stated what we were doing,” he said. “At the end of the day, I never misled anybody.” 

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“Anesthetized by the Word ‘Veteran’ ”

But for some of those involved with the show, the problem wasn’t with the attendance or the money.

The problem was with Caristinos using the word "veteran” to promote his own endeavor.

“When somebody wants to use the veterans, it should be tough to do,” said Dr. Allen Hayes, national vice chairman of the Veterans Party of America and a member of Safety Harbor VFW Post #10093. 

“I don’t think anyone queried what was coming back to us. And that’s on us, too.”

Hayes took up his concerns at the City Commission meeting on Dec. 3, where he cautioned the commissioners, "...the next time you utilize the word veteran, contact the (American) Legion and the VFW and see how we feel about it." 

At the previous meeting, the commissioners approved an ordinance that would allow for stricter guidelines in vetting events run by nonprofits.

“I talked to people from the VFW and American Legion, and they were kind of upset that it was being tagged as a vets-type affair just because it fell on Veterans Day weekend,” Mayor Andy Steingold said.

“I think we were between a rock and a hard place because it had been tagged as a veterans event, which puts us in a difficult light to say no to an event that we believe is for a good cause.”

Hayes believes that stance isn’t good enough when it comes to veterans.

“I’d like to see the city held responsible for their actions,” he said. “I think the groups that are responsible were anesthetized by the word ‘veterans.’ They were numb to the consequences.” 

Caristinos says people might have misunderstood what he was trying to do because of the timing of the event.

“Here’s the origin of the confusion: It was never promised as a veterans event, except in conjunction with the ceremony on Veterans Day,” he said.

“If I knew it was going to cause this much havoc, I would have never used it in the name.”

Not Everyone is Unhappy 

While it might seem like the whole city is against him, Caristinos is quick to point out that all the positive things he did for those involved with the show are going largely unnoticed.

In addition to supplying free tents and spaces at the show, he allowed a number of veterans groups to promote their organizations for free in addition to scheduling the flyover, water ski show and other activities.

In fact, many veterans have expressed gratitude for what Caristinos did for them. 

“The Quantico (VA) Sentry published a story about my balloon twisting online,” Marine Corps Cpl. John Alfano told Patch via email. “Glen Caristinos found this article and had a goal to bring me down to Florida for the Veterans Boat Show in Safety Harbor.”

Alfano went on to say that Caristinos arranged for his round-trip transportation and hotel accommodations. “All I had to worry about was remembering to bring my balloons,” he wrote.

The experience was meaningful to Alfano because he was able to interact with Santa’s Drill Team, which presented him with an American flag. 

“My parents were a part of the crowd that day,” he added. “My Mama told me that watching that happen was one of the proudest moments of her life.” 

Dave Dabney of Tampa Bay Troop Support, which had a table at the event, had similar praise for Caristinos. 

“What Glen and his group did was create a new event to show good support for the veterans and raise money for a good cause,” Dabney said.

“The first time any event is held, there is always a learning curve and some logistics that will need to be fine tuned for the next run,” he added. “Glen offered our troop support group a place there next year, and we have happily accepted.”

Whether there will be another Veterans Boat Show is doubtful; it’s not on the schedule of events for 2013, and City Manager Matt Spoor said, “We’ll make adjustments accordingly if he plans to do something else in Safety Harbor.”

But Caristinos said he has no qualms about attempting to organize another one.

“Would I change the date? I might. I could see us changing the name if it’s not held on Veterans Day weekend.”

“But I don’t feel as if I need to do that,” he said. “I don’t want it to lose its identity.”

What did you think about the event? Post a comment below.

Bill Goren December 12, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Great event, Glen did an awesome job. It is hard to pull off what he did in this economy. Can't wait untill next year.
Jeffrey Rosenfield December 12, 2012 at 02:40 PM
Thanks for your input, Bill.
jarine December 12, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Great event, but not much signage in the city (banners, signposts). I've heard residents say that they know what's going on by the banners that are put up and the signage at the entrances to the city. Also, recommend more promotion on social media, Facebook along with listing a schedule of events, Safety Harbor residential mailings. Agree, the first year is hard to publicize for any event. Keep the faith. It will build.
Ross "Roscoe" Rayner December 12, 2012 at 02:48 PM
I believe the event was well intended. Had I not been out of town, would have attended. I typically do attend an Armistice Day service. Glen queried if I could get a bus from my employer (free) and drive it which I would have been please to do. Unfortunately, the times such as they are, our insurance company would not allow me to do so.
John Callaghan December 12, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Lack of communication was the biggest downfall here, I live in the Harbor, and only realized it was on when I took my dog down to the marina for our usual walk. Other than that I would not have know about it. I think there might also be the point of saturation with these events at the marina, its very hard to tell one from the other, very similar vendors, bands etc, each event needs to have something that makes it stand out, and then advertise that difference to the town.
Jeffrey Rosenfield December 12, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Excellent points everyone. We appreciate the dialog.
David Conkle December 12, 2012 at 05:39 PM
I contacted Glen regarding the charities that this event was supposed to benefit and he agreed to meet with Matt Spoor and I with a full accounting of monies that were donated. He has since not responded to my e-mails or a phone message that was left on the phone number he provided. Many in Safety Harbor don't trust this guy and with good reason according to the article in the Tampa Bay Times about him.
Jeffrey Rosenfield December 12, 2012 at 06:22 PM
Interesting, I know Glen has said he would be happy to meet with city officials to go over the concerns. Perhaps he will see this piece and reach out to them.
glen caristinos December 12, 2012 at 11:50 PM
The largest Non Profit Veteran group in the world DAV and we helped them at the event also 1, Disable American Veterans (aka DAV) value cost of space for the Benefit Bus $600 cost of 2 spots less power what they help millions of Veterans and there families, they raised in awareness and donations at event Priceless 2,Tampa Bay Troop Support value cost of space $1235 cost of 4 spots with power, we paid for 20x40 tent $650 they made 210 packages for over sea soldiers what they raised in awareness and donations unknown 3, Pinellas Toys for Tots value cost of space $335 with power, Drop off area what they raised in awareness and donations unknown
glen caristinos December 12, 2012 at 11:50 PM
4, Cpl John Alfano USMC VA.to help Tots for Tots with balloon animals for children and participate in all Veteran events all weekend, $350 air fare,$450 hotel,$400 meals his family coming to see him Priceless 5, Palm Tree Santa Drill team value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown, They volunteered performed and promote all weekend to be part Veterans Boat Show 6, Ye Mystic Air Krewe value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown They volunteered performed and promote all weekend to be part Veterans Boat formation Fly over on Veterans Day 11/11 7, UVets value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown 8, Wreaths across America value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown
glen caristinos December 12, 2012 at 11:51 PM
9, Abilities Foundation/Veterans Mall value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown 10, Heroes on the Water value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown 11, Honor Flights value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown 12, Armed Forces Museum value cost of space $335 with power, we paid for 10x10 tent $120 13, Quantum Leap Farms / Cougar Calendars that get sent soldiers over seas, value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown 14, DAV Chapter 67 value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown (did attend do to emergency surgery) 15, Pet for Patriots value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown *no show 16,VFW Post 10093 value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown we paid for and supplied them with water and soda to sell and they got all the proceeds. 17, American Legion Post 238 they where offed space
glen caristinos December 12, 2012 at 11:51 PM
18, Safety Harbor Lions value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown (couldn't get volunteers no show) 19, US Marine Corps League value cost of space $335 with power, what they raised in awareness and donations unknown, They volunteered and performed Saturday for USMC Birthday Enhancement to the City of Safety Harbor's Veterans Day Weekend Saturday 11/10 - Marine Corps Birthday ,Cpl John Alfano USMC VA, MC League Color Guard, USF ROTC Buccaneer Battalion, Palm Tree Santa's Ceremony Sunday 11/11 normal city ceremony is AM Legion and VFW post donning colors, honor guard, group singing pledge a legion, message from the Mayor What we added to this day a small procession from top of Safety Harbor Marina, Cpl John Alfano USMC VA, Tampa Bay Pipes and Drums, Palm Tree Santa's Drill Team,Cigar City Harley Owners Group made up of Veterans and a Formation Fly over from Ye Mystic Air Krewe and performances
David Conkle December 13, 2012 at 01:26 AM
As a long-time member of the DAV, I know what a fine organization it is and the help they provide to disabled veterans like myself. While it is commendable that you provided space and power to many groups that help veterans by not charging them for event space, the questions everyone seems to want to know is what were your expenditures and what revenue was raised after total expenses were paid out? In addition, were any funds raised for the non-profit that sponsered this event or any other non-profits. Were you or any members of your event staff compensated in any way? I'm still waiting on the audit meeting you agreed to attend with Matt Spoor and myself or any other interested parties. Please let all concerned know when you will be able to attend this meeting at City Hall. Thank you!
Robert Saltzman December 13, 2012 at 03:06 PM
. I have mixed feeling about this "Boat Show". By the timing it was the 4th festival in a row. We had the British Car Show, 3rd night and then the Wine Fest all within a few weeks. People were festival-ed out. That and the Bayshore construction probably accounted for the poor attendance. The usual American Legion ceremony at the Memorial seemed to be overshadowed by the presence of the "Boat Show". I know it is a time for awareness but it also a time to take a few moments to remember our troops. Who benefited? That remains to be seen
David Conkle December 14, 2012 at 02:45 AM
Let's do a speculative audit with the information provided here within. Glen and the non-profit organization he represents and according to his comments, kindly donated 18 spaces to various non-profits at a cost of space plus power. Space donations totaled $5855 which were valued primarily in the opportunity cost of not being able to rent those spaces to other vendors. Although, he doesn't provide how much the cost of power for these 18 spaces was, information provided showed $770 for tent rental and $1200 for travel, lodging and food for Cpl. Alfano and his family. He also purchased water and soda for the VFW Post to sell; benefitting from the proceeds. I'm sure he had various other expenses including entertainment costs etc. Hypothetically though, say he rented 200 spaces as reported in the article, at $335 per space that would total $67,000 in revenues. Of course, the above is mostly supposition, however, until Glen meets with the city manager to present a complete audit of revenues less expenses and whether any non-profits received cash donations, we are all left to wonder what the truth really is regarding this city approved veterans' event.
De Lei'ed Parrots December 14, 2012 at 06:05 AM
As a professional musician of over 12 years, I have never had this much trouble collecting our pay. I could have brought our duo or trio to this event if that was what the budget called for instead of my six piece group (which by the way I cut the price for our Veterans). However, when we arrived for set up and saw that we were to perform on a flatbed truck (the stage had a wreck) I should have. I hope in the future that Mr. Caristinos conducts his business on a more professional level and doesn’t agree to things that haven’t been determined (especially hiring entertainment and then thinking you can change their compensation, or even cancel them, depending on event attendance)! I will never do business with him again… God Bless America, God Bless Our Troops and God Bless our Veterans!!!
De Lei'ed Parrots December 14, 2012 at 06:06 AM
My two cents to this: I am Connie Church, owner and performer of the De Lei’ed Parrots Band. I was approached by Glen in July to perform Sat evening 11/10 for a 2 day event for Veterans Day. An agreement (contract) was sent to him stating our fee and the compensation was to be paid at the end of our performance. During the next few months I saw that this event just kept growing larger and larger. At a Sept band performance, I was given a “heads up” by a close friend that Glen had some shady dealings around Safety Harbor. So, it was NOT a total surprise when I was given a partial check by Savor Wine LLC and told that was the fee that Glen stated, but it must have been a mistake and that my check for the remaining balance would be put in the mail Tues. 11/13. I immediately sent the email to both parties as soon as I retuned home that Glen & I had agreed upon. Well, after several emails (I’m in a meeting, I’ll have it to you by the end of the week, I’m borrowing against my life insurance, etc) and phone mails, I received my remaining balance last Wed 12/5 almost a month later.
Jeffrey Rosenfield December 14, 2012 at 04:47 PM
Miss Church of the De Lei'd Parrots wanted everyone to know that her comments are in reverse order. So please read the second one first.

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