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Residents Prepared to Speak Out On Firmenich Property Proposal

With a Planning and Zoning Board meeting set for Wednesday night, concerned Safety Harbor citizens plan to express their feelings about the residential and commercial development.

 

News of a developer planning to construct a large residential and commercial complex on the southwestern edge of Safety Harbor has caused concern among residents and officials in town. 

The proposal, submitted to the city by the Richman Group of Florida, calls for a 296-unit apartment complex and up to 37,900 square feet of commercial and retail space be built on the old Firmenich Citrus Center grounds on the northeast corner of McMullen Booth Road and State Road 590. 

At a city commission meeting earlier this month, commissioners voiced their opinions on the proposal; their concerns included traffic and overcrowding issues as well as a fear that the development would change the face of Safety Harbor forever. 

“This is not my Safety Harbor,” Commissioner Nancy Besore said of the proposal. “This is New York to me.” 

The proposal is set to go before the Planning & Zoning Board for approval Wednesday night, and concerned citizens are uniting to let officials know they do not want the development to go ahead as is without significant changes being made. 

“I live adjacent to the property where they are planning to put this development,” said Anna Marie Dunn, a marketing consultant who works from her Wilder Oaks home. “My back yard will look directly into this complex.” 

“This will be the largest building along ... the McMullen Booth corridor,” she added. “McMullen Booth was set up to be a naturally beautiful state road. This will impact the look and feel of Safety Harbor.” 

Dunn, who moved to the area in 1999, sent an email to city officials on Sunday in hopes of letting them know how she and many of her neighbors feel about the proposal. 

She emphasizes that she is not against development in town, just not on the size and scale of this particular project. 

“I’m definitely for development, and I’d love to see Safety Harbor grow,” she said. “But I’d like to see them take a look at an alternative plan, with single-family homes or two-story buildings instead of four-stories.” 

Dunn and members of her neighborhood coalition were meeting Monday night to organize their thoughts and ideas and to sign a petition, which they will present at the P&Z board meeting. 

She says they are adamant about protecting the image of Safety Harbor.

“When I tell people I live in Safety Harbor, they say how nice and quaint it is. I don’t want the first thing people think of to be, ‘Oh, that’s where that giant apartment complex is.' ”

The Planning & Zoning Board will meet Wednesday, Oct. 10th at 6:30pm at City Hall.


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Related Topics: Development, Firmenich Property Proposal, Planning & Zoning Board, and Safety Harbor City Commission

Harborite

7:50 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Residents need to attend this Planning and Zoning Board meeting and oppose this excessively large scale apartment, commercial, and retail project. This type of development project is simply too large and will generate too much traffic for our small city. Greedy developers throughout Florida have already ruined many other once quaint cities and towns with overdevelopment and they will do it here if we let them. Safety Harbor is unique in the Tampa Bay region. We still retain our small town Old Florida charms while most other cities have allowed developers to overbuild and ruin the quality of life of its residents. Remember, once we lose Safety Harbor's quaint small town atmosphere, we can never get it back again.

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Owen Linder, MD FACP

8:22 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Does the proposal fit the development outlines of the regional planning board and the Safety Harbor downtown redevelopment plan ?
Which development rules apply? Which do they want to break?
I do not know if the last downtown redevelopment plan applies as even a guide to the Fermenich property which is obviously currently an abandoned factory unsuitable to be part of the downtown plan nor in downtown.
Would Richman Co be nice enough to show the city what else it has done ? Is there a web site?
One of my favorite design concepts of the Safety Harbor Downtown redevelopment plan is the interior storage of automobiles within the building exterior footprints with exterior landscaping. Will the developer follow the good concepts of human scale design or jampack the most possible rentable square feet and create another homage to the auto?More recent SH subdivisions have suburbanized with quarter acre lots for minimansions. The best we see elsewhere is West Chase, which is way too homogenized and deed restriction bound. The charm of downtown Safety Harbor has been in the fifty foot lot downtown streets untrammeled by deed restrictions.. Will the developer create another sterile island of high cost low value homogenous domiciles or will it attempt to craft an extension of the community ?
Safety Harbor has employed a planning person for many decades. Would Patch interview Mr McLaughlin and commissioners to see where the development plan meets or exceeds the city expectations ?

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Dee Dokumaci

12:45 am on Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Dr. Linder, here's some properties they have built in the Tampa bay area:
http://www.baysidecourt.com/
http://www.belleairplacefl.com/
http://www.clearharborfl.com/
http://www.hudsonridgefl.com/
The Above are local properties they have built, but I have also noticed all the properties include state of the art fitness centers which will hurt our very own Safety Harbor Resort & Spa, also they are planning retail stores which will hurt many small business owners!
I have also checked out some articles of concern, here are the links to what I found:
http://www.therichmangroup.com/public/pdf/RichmanGroup_257mil.pdf
http://www.housingfinance.com/ahf/articles/2012/september/0912-finance-A-Search-for-Balance.htm

While our taxes will be higher to fund affordable housing, the developer will get tax breaks, is this what we want for our quaint community & will this venture devalue real estate even more, these are important things to consider!

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Jeffrey Rosenfield

9:29 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Dr. Linder,
The first link in the article takes you to a detailed explanation of what the developer is proposing for the property and what must be done to allow it to happen. The Richman Group, one of the largest residential property developers in the United States according to its website, is seeking an amendment of the city's future land use map and zoning atlas to allow the complex to be built as planned. The current zoning allows for a maximum amount of 111 apartment units.
Safety Harbor Patch has been and will continue to follow the issue closely, and that will include interviews with many of the parties involved. Thank you for your comment.

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Anna Marie Dunn

9:32 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Owen - You can get the information you are looking for with these directions:

Go to www.cityofsafetyharbor.com

Click on Meeting Agendas & Video located on the left side.

Click on 2012 list of City Commission Meetings

Click on City Commission October 1, 2012 Video

The video will start load. In the meantime look at the agenda listed on the right.

Scroll down the agenda till you get to Old Business section.

You’ll see item number 2. Status of Negotiations on Development Agreement with the Richman Group of Florida, Inc.

Click on the inside of this item and it will take the video to the presentation concerning this section of the meeting. You won’t have to view the entire meeting to get to the Firmenich piece.

If you click on “Link to Old Business #2 Backup Materials” located under the agenda item “2. Status of Negotiations on Development …..” you can view and print the documents they are referencing in the meeting.

Please join us and others in the community on Wednesday night at 6:30 at Town Hall!

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Harborite

10:28 am on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

In this proposed 296-unit apartment complex, we may have several hundred school aged children living there that will need to be educated. Who will pay for all of these costs? Will the developers pay for these costs? Of course not. They will just take the profits and run. All of these costs will be left to Safety Harbor taxpayers. Also, the resulting increased traffic on Safety Harbor roads will mean that we will need to start installing traffic lights throughout the City. Traffic lights will only ruin the quaintness of driving down Safety Harbor streets. I think Safety Harbor officials need to think more seriously about the long term consequences of approving such large scale development projects within the city.

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Barbara W. Hugg

12:25 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

Anna Marie - we want to sign your petition - see you tomorrow night. We live right around the corner from Firmenich on 590 and we are not pleased, to say the least, about the current proposal...

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Anna Marie Dunn

9:13 am on Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Barbara - we will be at the Safety Harbor City Hall with the petition. See you tonight and thank you for supporting the community!

Dee Dokumaci

5:26 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I will sign the petition, I am a business owner of 5 months in our quaint community however I am not a resident but still that should not be an issue, I moved my business from Downtown Dunedin due to being overcrowded with unfinished condos which was an eye sore to say the least plus too many restaurants & bars which brought in the wrong element at the moment small businesses in Downtown Dunedin are hurting where attention is given to excessive bars, a lot of families have distanced themselves, I am thankful the families who used to shop at my boutique are now back to shop at my boutique here due to Safety Harbor being so unique & quaint!
Also here's another point, take a good look at Downtown Clearwater, that massive condo with retail shops below is sitting empty, same thing is happening in condos galore in overcrowded beaches with massive traffic problems!
Ideal development would be to build 2 story family townhomes which could be used for seasonal rentals to build tourism, there are so many travelers who want to lease a townhome 4 to 5 months some even for 6 months during season, it might even give them an excuse to visit during slow season, they want to be able to bring their pets with them so it is nice to have a doggy park, other amenities included would be a library, small drugstore, a surf & turf type market, a bank, a community activity room, possibilities are endless & it is good for the adjacent community, please consider this option, thanks :)

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Anna Marie Dunn

9:14 am on Wednesday, October 10, 2012

Dee - please join us at the Safety Harbor City Hall tonight, we will have the petition as well as presenting to the Planning & Zoning Board.

Pete V

6:12 pm on Tuesday, October 9, 2012

I live along the lake North of that property. When that lake fills up after a heavy rain, that lake is 'supposed' to drain out to the South (through that property) to Alligator Creek/Lake. It barely does now since they built a development (Hancock Ct.) to the West and raised their elevation with a sea/lake wall. Now that lake extends (50 ft to the East) right up to the property lines of houses at the bottom of Oak Haven Dr. It's a very environmentally sensitive area due to its drainage issues. A new development in that area is like to make things even worse. How about Safety Harbor's first 9 hole city golf course ?........I'd be in favor of that.....

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