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Presidential Campaign Visits: Exciting or a Nuisance?

Love 'em or hate 'em, the candidates' visits to the Tampa Bay area probably won't stop anytime soon. What do you think of politicians coming to your town?

 

With Florida a battleground state – and Tampa Bay considered key to the presidential election – campaigning has been nonstop in 2012.

The showdowns started with the Florida Primary in January, when Republican presidential hopefuls started descending on Tampa Bay.

They intensified when the Republican National Convention came to town last month, with GOP nominee Gov. Mitt Romney and his crew bringing major buzz and more than a little disruption to downtown Tampa.

Things heated up again recently, as President Barack Obama stopped in Seminole, Ann Romney came to Largo and Paul Ryan, Romney's VP pick, visited Oldsmar Saturday.

Campaign visits: Love 'em or hate 'em, but don't expect them to end anytime soon.

No, with Florida a critical state in the presidential election year and the so-called I-4 corridor up for grabs, according to some pundits, count on more campaign stops in the Tampa Bay area.

In fact, Obama is slated to come to Tampa and Romney to Sarasota this week.

So, what do you think of all the attention our area is getting from national politicians?

  • Are visits from presidential nominees to your town still exciting, or has it become old hat by now?
  • Is it nice for the Tampa Bay area to be in the spotlight, or is it not worth all the headaches, disruptions and traffic delays?
  • Could a hometown visit from a candidate and hearing his message still sway your vote? Or have you heard it all before?

Post a comment below and let everyone know what you think.

About this column: What's Tampa Bay Saying is an occasional column that features local, state or national news that we want to get the entire region's take on. These stories are posted on the various local Patch sites throughout Tampa Bay. That way, you can see what your neighbors think, as well as some of the different opinions that make each part of Tampa Bay so unique. We'll follow each column with a roundup of the very best local comments on our individual Patch sites so you can see exactly what readers in your community had to say about a particular topic. Related Topics: I-4 corridor, Mitt Romney, Obama, Tampa Bay, What's Tampa Bay Saying?, campaign visits, elections 2012, and participate 2012

Who is WILLIAM BINNEY?

9:59 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

It's fantastic when the oligarchs come to town. They get to have the streets shut down for them........traffic re-rooted........all the pomp and circumstance that comes along with them paying the peasants a visit.

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Swiffer Wet Jet

10:18 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

Right about now, I imagine countless patch reader are getting out their dictionaries looking up the word "oligarch". For christsakes, if you're gonna talk to the peasants - speak common English!

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Torrey Craig

6:01 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

That is common English, or perhaps you did not take classes in composition.

joyce michele

10:34 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

oligarch is NOT an unusual word, give us credit!
signed.
peasant

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Walt Kowalski

12:10 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Yeah, it is..... even Bill O'Reilly hasn't used it as a "word of the day" up to this point!

And you meant "Pheasant", right?

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Philip Penrose

12:32 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Swiffer didn't say it was an "unusual" word; though it certainly isn't often heard, used or seen in print. No denying that. I see the Wet Jet's point. Although, learning new words can come in useful, there won't be much use for this one. ;)

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Sunde Farquhar

9:33 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Here's my two cents... oligarch is not used in everyday conversation.

Here's how Merriam-Webster online defines "oligarch"-
ol·i·garch noun \ˈä-lə-ˌgärk, ˈō-\
: a member or supporter of an oligarchy
Then I looked up oligarchy and this is what came up-
ol·i·gar·chy noun \ˈä-lə-ˌgär-kē, ˈō-\
plural ol·i·gar·chies

Here's how Merriam-Webster online defines "oligarchy"-
1: government by the few
2: a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes; also : a group exercising such control
3: an organization under oligarchic control
See oligarchy defined for English-language learners »
See oligarchy defined for kids »

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George Gould

9:56 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Sunde, you are correct. Oligarch is not used in everyday conversation. The reason is that oligarch(y) means nothing. All governments are oligarchies. The few rule over the many regardless of the governing philosophy even in a democracy or a democratic republic.

The questions you must answer are 1) who is ruled?; 2)who rules?; and who is the beneficiary of the rule?

The more correct term for those who rule in the United States is plutocrat which derives from plutocracy (rule by the wealthy). The system we have in this country is a plutocracy with a democratic veneer or, to paraphrase Lincoln: government of the people, by the politicians, for the wealthy.

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Torrey Craig

10:57 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

The term oligarchy has a connotation of corruption, while Mr Gould in using plutocracy does not have the suggestion corruption rather the limiter is physical wealth. It is at best reprehensible that the rich language of the Bard has been denigrated into the tattoo of a pile driver.

Our government requires the participation of each and every person in order for our government to continue to be successful. Should we systemically exclude certain classes of individuals from freely participation, our experiment in self government will fail.

Ben Franklin, on leaving the Constitutional Convention, was asked - what kind of government had been delegated created. He answered: A Republic, IF you can keep it. That question haunts us to this day. Our form of self government is unique, are we smart enough to keep it?

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George Gould

11:30 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Ms Craig, you have done an excellent job of reciting the basics of American Mythology. I prefer to deal with reality, and the reality is that we are now, and have been since the founding of the "Republic," a plutocracy with the veneer of a democracy. Our "experiment in self government," as you call it, consists of, every 2, 4, or 6 years, casting a ballot for one of two candidates selected by the two major parties which are owned, lock, stock and barrel, by the wealthy ruling elite. These two candidates, regardless of the pablum they feed us during the biennial political silly seasons, are dedicated to maintaining this system.

You use the word "corruption," implying that the system as it is in reality is an aberration from the system described in your mythology. Unfortunately, you are wrong. The word "corruption" is meaningless in discussing the reality of our system and therefore like the word "oligarch(y)" is not useful.

RAJ (Bo) McMerritt

10:57 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

how many more days? until BHO out MR in

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George Gould

11:27 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

If your assumption (BHO out MR in) is valid, one could determine the answer to your question by counting the days between today and Inauguration Day on January 20, 2013 (125 days). Keep in mind though that your assumption could be invalidated by BHO defeating MR on November 6, 2012 or by the Mayans being right about December 21, 2012, which would change the answer to "when pigs fly."

Rose Way

11:01 am on Monday, September 17, 2012

CBS said Romney-Ryan cuts to Medicare and Social Security will be in the tens of billions of dollars because he won't tax millionaires. Said that they'll give seniors a voucher to take to the doctor. If you bill is more than the voucher, seniors pay out of pocket. The cost to seniors is much higher than we pay now..

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The Masked Blogger

12:21 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

The cost of Medicare/Medicaid should be geared to assets held by the individual in each respective program, NOT just by virtue of their senior status in age. The fact that someone is an "asset millionaire" but is able to essentially hide or defer 'said assets' to be able to "qualify" for Medicaid, is just plain wrong. It's basically saying , "I'm a millionaire, (who happens to be a senior) and can fully afford my own long term care, but have this inherent right to legally be NOT able to not pay for my care because my assets should all go to my heirs while everyone else foots the bill while I'm alive." Get all that? That is exactly what's going on in households across America. Medicare & Medicaid should be NEED based (financially), not just taken for granted because someone turns a certain age.

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Liz

2:48 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Rose Way, this is silly rhetoric. Instead think of what is important to America's Freedom : On Nov 6 you are voting to keep Christianity and God or to Change to Islam and Socialism. Those are then only facts here and the only things that matter. The rest is nothing but silly rhetoric.

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Michael D.

9:17 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Liz,
How are we voting to keep God and Christianity. And changing to Islam and Socialism. The very crux of that agrument makes no sense. There are many Socialist who are Christians. Also our society and government are not set up to make the change to socialism and no President with only an 8 eight term could make such a drastic change. Our government is based due to our Founding Fathers on the seperation of Church and State. So how are we going to be forced to be either Christian or Islamic. Currently 76% of the American population is Christian, on January 20, 2013 that is magically going to change if Obama is elected.
That is labels and propaganda speaking. It's just as bad as the statements that Romney will remove the Middle class if he is president. Or the 1% will take power (they already have). It is just propaganda build to divide our nation from seeing that the government stopped working for the people years ago.

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Lynda

10:58 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

To Masked Blogger: Do you understand the current requirements for Medicaid? Do you have any idea who qualifies and the steps in qualifying, how much they (or their for profit health providers!) are covered for or how the broader economy (including millions of jobs) is helped by Medicare and Medicaid? Medicaid is NEED based. Medicare is a program paid into by those whose benefits are determined by the amount money they paid. Masked Blogger, I have lost patience with ignorant people who eagerly defend all the tax avoidance loopholes/social deductions given to special interests (churches?) but deny earned benefits such as unemployment insurance and Medicare to people who use those benefits. And guess who lobbied for the legal (as legal as the tax shelters Gov. Romney uses) ways to shelter income or assents in order to qualify for Medicaid? The for-profit entities who make their money on those who receive Medicaid and the adult children who need to work, raise their own children and save for their own retirements. Masked Blogger, you are like your candidate, devoid of empathy and common sense about what makes the economy and communities function. Get all that? It is very nasty of me to wish you old age, illness or poverty, but all will come to you and you will change your mind very quickly about these programs.

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The Masked Blogger

12:51 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Hey Lynda...are you just the resident wackjob? Reread my post, you totally have dyslexia or are eating too much catnip these days.

Joseph Robert

7:28 pm on Monday, September 17, 2012

Attention Florida Seniors on Medicare and All Others Using Government Assistance!!!

This is what Mitt Romney thinks of you and ALL OF AMERICANS dependent on government support:

“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them.”

“..my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives”

Mitt Romney, speaking at fundraiser, Spring 2012

Watch the video at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/mitt-romney-trashes-the-47-percent/2012/09/17/f3ef2b6e-0116-11e2-9367-4e1bafb958db_blog.html

Mitt Romney: He thinks you act like a VICTIM!

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Joseph Robert

11:48 am on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Did you see Romney earned 3 Pinnochios for his false "47 percent" comments at his fundraiser visit to Boca Raton in May:

Washington Post:
Romney Wrong on His "47 Percent" Comments

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romney-caught-on-video-tape/2012/09/17/38578a5e-012f-11e2-b257-e1c2b3548a4a_blog.html?hpid=z2

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rick barasso

6:41 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

It was getting boring, but now that Mitt is actively trying to lose the election, it could get interesting.

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Jacque Mioff

6:45 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

The other 53% of us don't care what you think, Rick :)

Joseph Robert

8:22 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Did anyone get a count on the total number of lies that Ryan told at his recent Oldsmar visit?

I understand he was aiming for his personal-best number? :-)

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rick barasso

8:31 pm on Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Without a calculator, how could anyone keep track of all the lies coming from team Ryney

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Heike House

10:07 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Hey, Jason!
What was the question again?

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George Gould

10:36 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Heike, we try to answer the question but sometimes we get distracted...what is your favorite color?

Travis Wilkinson

11:19 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

A little food for thought...In Thai Obama has another meaning.

O-Ba-Ma

OH CRAZY DOG!!!

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The Masked Blogger

11:26 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

:::singing Harry Chapin::::: "The cat's in the kettle at the Silver Moon, the little lunch place I go every day at noon......"

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Michael D.

11:46 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Never saw a stray dog in Thailand. So wonder if O-Ba-Ma is a dish in some areas. I never asked what I was eating after I asked about a soup, and realized after being told that I didn't want to know.

Gramps Pupany

11:34 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

GOP corruption starts with Romney & Ryan and lies they've told us about their who they will serve and who they won't. Lies of "omission", such as hidden budget cuts, are equal to lies of "commission", such as telling the rich one thing and the rest of America another.

They're up to his necks in The Lying Game. What they say is all part of the larger GOP strategy. Believe me, Ryan "takes direction" in order to "stay on" the Republican message. He must "sing the GOP song" to be a GOP candidate.

All across the nation, millionaires are backing these liars. They want full control in order to create the final divide between rich and poor. "Us and them".

Their misjudgment? A lot of that 47% they despise is part of working America; students working their way through college, single moms restarting their lives with their first job since high school and truly poor mothers, working while the kids are at school, just to buy fuel oil for this winter and food for the day.

These are proud Americans. Romney has just stolen their pride, their will power and more...their dignity.

Men like Romney, Ryan and Republican candidates for Congress have no place in the seats of government (at any level) making decisions for "all Americans". They only have experience with the "jet set" and their "country club" members. That's okay, if you're running for Prom Queen, but the responsibilities here are far reaching and their vision does not include all Americans, as we've just found out.

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Jason Bartolone

12:15 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

I love how the conversation has evolved, and thanks to everyone for commenting. But getting back to the original questions .... do you like having presidential candidates coming to the Tampa Bay area to try to persuade voters, or is your mind already made up? Would you go see President Obama or Gov. Romney when they are in town? Or is it not worth all the extra traffic and security hassles?

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Michael D.

12:18 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Jason, i would like to see both, but also the other candidates that are not part of either of the two major parties. All views should be expressed for the education of the voters not to come from the national media sources that already have monetary interests in the race.

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George Gould

12:59 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Jason, I'd like to see Obama and Romney in a cage match to the death but I doubt it would ever come off. Obama probably wouldn't show and, given his previous history with anything that might be dangerous, we'd have to send somebody to Paris to snatch Romney back.

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Michael D.

1:02 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

would pay to see it George, not as much as I would pay to see Eddie Vedder though.

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Bill

7:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Not worth the hassles. They have paid shills in the audience.
only time when I worked at HCC and I could walk over to hear Obama speak . No wait no hassle. I met Rosalyn Carter on a WHite House tour once. Those days are gone.

Amy Dinovo

3:30 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Like Michael D. I'd prefer to see the other candidates that are not part of the two major machines. I'm familiar enough with the both narratives that come from the wealthiest parties' candidates. It's those other 10 at last count, names that will be on the presidential ballot in Florida that I'm interested in hearing. Do they have any new ideas that might work their way into our national dialog? If, as some have stated, a Romney loss will be the demise of the GOP, what takes its place? So my answer to the question(s) are determined by what is meant by "candidates," because I've heard enough from the red and blue candidates.

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Michael D.

4:52 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Article Released by Forbes through Reuters... Capitalism in America is live and good with a "Socialist" President.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/19/usa-billionaires-forbes-idINL1E8KJ8PC20120919

The net worth of the richest people in American grew by 1.7 Trillion Dollars, or grew 13% from last year.. The Net Worth of the top 400 earners is $13.56 Trillion dollars, also meaning $4.2 Billion growth on average. The lowest net worth was $1.1 out of the group, compared to $1.05. So I guess our weathly must be hurting? People who know how to use the system, are making money.
I guess we are in trouble if the Standard & Poor 500 index rose almost 20% over the past year (as stated in the article).
I guess the Rich are getting Richer... but that can't be happening with a "Socialist" President, right? America will always be a Capitalistic society regardless of the labels and propaganda that is out there.

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